My niece lives with an investigator who's full time job is to investigate horrific crime scenes. When he comes home all he wants is to have his feet rubbed that he's no more in the door and after fifteen minutes he shuts down. I wonder what made him want to do the job he does. He doesn't have the killing instinct in him and yet he tries to make world a safer place and yet again he loves to investigate these crimes. That's got to mess with your head even more so than just going out to kill.
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Why Do People Kill?
by minimus ini know that killing has gone on since the beginning of time.. but i wonder why some people kill?.
are they typically screwy in the head?.
are they just angry at the world or their family member or their boss?.
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What does Disfellowshiping really mean?
by nolongerconfused innot sure if i spelled the word right, but:.
as some of you probably know i'm no longer active and have stopped attending etc...etc.... if one is disfellowshipped for whatever reason, including not agreeing with wtb doctrine...does the wtbs consider you worthy of death come armageddon?
i saw the trial transcript and that's what they believed in the 50's...anyone have any recent quote from their publications explaining how they see a disfellowshipped person?.
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We're not even disfellowshipped and I was reminded that a grade one student informed his teacher if you don't come to the kingdom hall you will be killed by Jehovah. So there's your answer out of the mouths of babes. Hubby just came in and told me that the guy who was fooling around on his wife and got reinstated, shortly after he got reinstated took a crobar and smashed his wifes lincoln in by hand, forged a legal document, goes after all the women who work for him, tells new guys he's about to hire that he doesn't hire guys whos dicks are bigger than his, never went to the meetings while df'd, came for one week during the co visit and even commented, was gone again and shortly after reinstated. Then his wife takes him back and she's allowed to pioneer two months after she moves back in with him. That's just one example and this came from people in the territory as well right from wifeys mouth. You tell me what disfellowshipping means.
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What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?
by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique ini once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.
due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.
isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?
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In pioneer school I had a co tell all of us that the co's are here for ONLY the elders, ms's and pioneers. That's it. If we have a problem with the elders to come see him.So we did and he said at the beginning of the week to just hang in there for there changes coming with our hall and by the end of that same week he said get it when you can and gave us two congregations to choose from so we left. At the annual pioneer meeting we had a DO that said the reason why all of us were here was because we were way more spiritual than the others that weren't pioneering. That was my first meeting and last! Since when was spirituality based on hours and comparisons? Then there was a co that was asked to leave an apartment building and he yelled back at this poor woman "when I'm done with this woman then I'll leave, you got that?" Then, he has the nerve that week to say from the platform how when asked to leave, you would leave quietly. He was also the same one that didn't turn down a waterballoon fight at parties held in public parks.
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They Are Just Like The Amish (But with Electricity)
by OnTheWayOut ini was describing jehovah's witnesses to a family member who had no idea whatsoever about them.
i may be straightforward and describe things in terms i have learned since reading about cults, but i was not over the top in any way.
i was simply stating the facts in a way that did not try to put any positive spin on anything.. my family member said, "so they are basically the amish but with televisions and electricity.
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Hey smiddy that reminds me our one mennonite study we use to have also stated that they are not allowed to collect welfare as well since they are not allowed to vote.
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They Are Just Like The Amish (But with Electricity)
by OnTheWayOut ini was describing jehovah's witnesses to a family member who had no idea whatsoever about them.
i may be straightforward and describe things in terms i have learned since reading about cults, but i was not over the top in any way.
i was simply stating the facts in a way that did not try to put any positive spin on anything.. my family member said, "so they are basically the amish but with televisions and electricity.
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One other thing if you want to make comparisons and that is they might not get an education but they work their butts off and could show all of us a thing or two. The men have their sawmills and welding shops, the women sew, bake. garden and preserves. They run huge greenhouses as wel. They also run butcher shops, process and have slaughter houses. They do alot of horseshoe and leather harnessing. make furniture ect.... show me a witness who works part time, no education, lives off his parents and doesn't pioneer. Guys the mennonites have most beat by along shot when it comes to farming. In the end I would rather have this kind of tool of the trade where we will possibly have to barter one day with our neighbors. What will we have to offer?
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They Are Just Like The Amish (But with Electricity)
by OnTheWayOut ini was describing jehovah's witnesses to a family member who had no idea whatsoever about them.
i may be straightforward and describe things in terms i have learned since reading about cults, but i was not over the top in any way.
i was simply stating the facts in a way that did not try to put any positive spin on anything.. my family member said, "so they are basically the amish but with televisions and electricity.
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Some of our customers are Amish, old order, modern, ect. When it comes to the excommunication they are marched up the middle of their church, made to sit at the front and then the elder will inform the congregation from the platform what he has done.BUT, he is still allowed to have contact with his relatives (which is almost the entire congregation because they marry first cousins and up). The rest of the congregation who are not family are forewarned to be wise and not associate with this person unless it's business. He told us the JW's are worse than them for shunning. They don't rip families apart. He said he could never be one of us.
Some orders are allowed to have medical insurance some not. If they die then it was meant to be because the lord wanted it that way.One sect is not allowed to have visa or mastercards yet another will say ok. Some have flower dresses and some no pattern. The men get beards once their married. Before they get married they are to leave home and sow their oatsfor one year. They are not allowed to have a telephone in the house but half way down the drive way they can have a telephone installed. Then there's others who have cell phones. Some are allowed hooks on their pants and no zippers allowed. Alot of them are not allowed to take pictures or have cameras. No internet. Funny thing I was asked if I could see if there are apostate websites on the Amish. Some sects are allowed rubber tires while others have to have the steel tires on their buggies.
Alot of them make their own booze and summersausage in their barns. What ticks people off here is as long as they say the summersausage is made for their families then they don't need any inspection yet you'll see them at the markets selling their meats. Someone gets sick they point their fingers at the next guy. That's why unpasturized cook cheese has been outlawed because of salmonela.
The woman aren't allowed to cut their hair and when they wear the black bonnets it's to be a protection while they are out in the gloomy world. When they get home they can wear their white bonnets. They say this is how they stand out amongst the world. They also feel they are keeping their lives simple.
Only the elder is allowed to have the book and it is not a bible. This is the Dave Martin mennonites. Others use the King James. The Dave Martin women are not allowed to have the bible. I told one why is Esther and Ruth in the bible then. I do have to admit they dont rely on the outside if they can help it but they do ALOT of charity relief work. They will go into all the hotels and pick up soap, shampoos, comforters, sheets, shower caps ect and send it to the third world countries. We have the mennonite relief sales raiseing money and awareness to the third world countries. They have missionaries and they do adopt alot of children from orphanages.
Also, if a barn burns the whole mennonite community comes together and will have another barn put up at the end of the month. I know we've had tornados rip through here and noone even bothered to call to see if we were ok. The witnesses lose by a long shot on that one. I can't say we've ever seen the kind of united brotherly love you see amongst the mennonites here in the organisation. When someones sick they get meals for three months but in the JWs nothing. Only their precious elders and ms's get the attention.
But the mennonites are not allowed to question their beliefs or they also get a judicial committee at their doors, Twice a year they hit the big cities with tracts and hand them out mostly in prostitute districts. One mennonite was asked if he were a jw. The women are not allowed to go. Education up to grade eight and then they farm but there are some mennonite school teachers but don't know what their crudentials are.
There is quite abit of incest that does go on. We witnessed that first hand with two of our neighbors. One got sent to jail for three months and the other is dead but he raped his daughter and she had the child who has a rare blood disorder along with having to wear a catherder for life. She stands four feet at the most and is about twelve. Really cute little girl but with major kidney and other disorders. Has had upteen surgeries as well.
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Why did you pick the name you have now
by label licker injust wondering if your name describes what you saw, how you were treated when you were "in" or now "out", maybe your personality, ect.... i'm label licker and the why i picked this name was because of all the licking up one side of elders and down the other to either be an elder or ministerial servant.
one time i was standing right in front of this brother who wasn't made an ms yet and he totally ignored me and talked right over my head speaking really loud trying to catch the co's attention.. got sick of watching the poor elderly sitting all alone or standing against the wall like a wall flower with noone to talk to and yet all these label lickers would take turns picking up the elders elderly parents and take them shopping and do their groceries at least four times a week while out in service, yet, there was noone there to take a meal to a sister who just got out of the hospital with a heart attack.
when i had shown up at her apartment with a meal she asked if i could wash her private and change her bandages.
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Just wondering if your name describes what you saw, how you were treated when you were "in" or now "out", maybe your personality, ect.... I'm label licker and the why I picked this name was because of all the licking up one side of elders and down the other to either be an elder or ministerial servant. One time I was standing right in front of this brother who wasn't made an ms yet and he totally ignored me and talked right over my head speaking really loud trying to catch the co's attention.
Got sick of watching the poor elderly sitting all alone or standing against the wall like a wall flower with noone to talk to and yet all these label lickers would take turns picking up the elders elderly parents and take them shopping and do their groceries at least four times a week while out in service, yet, there was noone there to take a meal to a sister who just got out of the hospital with a heart attack. When I had shown up at her apartment with a meal she asked if I could wash her private and change her bandages. Noone was there for her. It broke my heart. She is now in a nurseing home with no visitors. It makes me sick when the elderly get really old and fragile and they leave whatever they have to the society and I would have to say that's the only time you will see an elder talk to them, when they have to go over the paperwork for any money that might come their way. The elder takes them into the second school to work out the paperwork. The guy is too lazy or doesn't have the time to go over to their homes and do it.
I detest label licking What about you?
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The 24 Elders in Revelation are NOT the anointed......
by EndofMysteries intoday i just thought of this.
i had written a thread about the false teaching of the anointed being resurrected already.
anyway, the wt assumes the 24 elders in revelation are the 144,000, and the assumption is merely because both sit on thrones.
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Why couldn't it be the holy ones that fell out of their tombs? It was all at the same time there was an earth quake and Jesus went up to his father and took the firstfruits with him. On the day of festival of first fruits. Remember noone could touch him for he had not ascended to his father yet and days later Thomas could touch him. Doesn't say how many holy ones rolled out of their graves. It never made sense to me that oh there was an earthquake they went into the city after they rolled out of their graves. The words the holy ones is what made me think why couldn't Jesus and the holy ones ascend at the same time.
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The GB are god's mouthpiece. Rebuttal to elders?
by punkofnice ini've read how many have been asked the question if they belive thae gb/f&d$ are jehovah's(tm) channel for communication.
this question to finally find out if they should be df or not (terms and conditions apply and are subject to favouritism or who your family are).. we all know too well that the gb arrogantly do claim to be god's channel in their pope like status.. however, when they are made to look like arses they suddenly become 'just imperfect men doing their best...where else will you go?'(r).
so when the elders come to hound individuals and ask the ultimate question of loyalty to the holy paedo ring known as the gb..... what answers have you heard given that was totally brilliant?.
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Are you kidding me? The last day we were in the hall the cobe came up to me and asked if he could see the both of us in the woodshed and I said no due the last time when we got a talking to for helping someone who asked for our help and then abused their elderly parent with dimentia and in diapers. That's for another day. So the elder goes on to ask me right at door entrance where everyone is coming and going if we are questioning the fds. After lurking on this site we remembered that if we are ever approached with any questions from elders to answer back with a question and they will freeze frame so we did. We asked why would you ever say that and the next words out of his mouth was well you know you don't have to believe that Jesus was Michael in order to get baptised. We both went WHAT THE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And that was it.
Next local needs there was a talk on apostacy which we were not there for and haven't been back for nine months with no shepherding calls nothing. And we didn't get df'd or put on reproof but from that moment on no phone calls from noone just two beautiful handwritten cards saying our comments are missed at the hall
A clever answer I would give now is "you tell me who you think the fds is and does it come invisibly like Jesus did in 1914? Next they will say that Jesus is sitting at their right hand at their table along with the fds and will make sure they pull out the big chair for him at the head of the table with the puffed up arrogant cobe at the other end
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If This Site Was A Religion
by label licker inif this site were a religion, what would you name it and who would you elect as elders, ms's, co's, ect,,,,.
i'll start: i would call it the educated loveable and untouchables.
would love to be the elder that says no dissassociation allowed or disfellowshipping!
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Oh, new rules to field circus. We go shopping, visit friends who are already in, go for breakfast, Pull over and eat lunch, head back for another drink, drive out to countryside to see who your next rv will be, drive back to the city and do a driveby, go back to hall and use washroom, kill twenty minutes looking at backboard, and stop fifteen minutes early and call that your full day out in service. Oh what am I saying, that's what they do now. Or would there be field service? Knowing Mouthy she would say yeah and call it picketing!